What follows is a long post, that contains much material from the research trip I made to The Hague and Uganda in late July 2006. The following links to different portions of it can only be used if you're looking at the archived version, not the "front page" of the blog.
After an introductory section the post addresses the following: a brief decsription of the dimensions of the anti-humane crisis in northern Uganda; the main points gleaned from a short focus-group discussion I held in an IDP camp near Gulu; my interview with ICC prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo; a reflection on the effects of the work of the ICC and the ad-hoc tribunals; how Ugandans have been pursuing a way forward ; and some additional points.
In addition, you can read two columns I published in The Christian Science Monitor in mid-August about the situation in northern Uganda and the dilemmas it causes for the ICC: here and here. You can read early, unedited field-notes from my time in Uganda, as posted on my personal blog Justworldnews.org, here , here , and here . And you can access the other valuable resources TJF has on Uganda, here.
Dep. Camp Leader Harry Okello: The ICC should be suspended, to give peace talks a chance. because if the prosecutions proceed, Kony won't ever come out of the bush.I asked what kind of a reception they expected Kony to get if he should come back to the Acholi area, Odek, that was his homeplace. Our hosts had a short discussion among themselves, which Mr. Owor then described to me as expressing a consensus view that "He should just come back to Odek and people would accept him." However, Florence threw into the discussion the additional idea that he should come back and be absorbed into the national army. (Not as crazy as it seems if you remember what happened with the Renamo forces after the Mozambique ceasefire, or the ANC forces after democratization in South Africa. However, I failed to explore further with Florence whether she thought this path would prove to be a punishment of sorts for Kony or would be valuable because it would at least offer him a livelihood.)
Camp Defense Secretary Kito: The ICC is looking only at the commanders. But what about the other LRA fighters? They would just spread out if the arrests proceed, and make more problems everywhere.
Driver Robert: If you arrest Kony, though, it would be like doing away with the head of the household and it would be good because it would end the problem.
Vice Zone-leader Florence: What mechanism does the ICC have to arrest Kony? I hope it works. I compare it to the situation of a hen and its chicks. If you do away with the hen, the chicks will scatter. That's good.
Camp Women's Chair Margaret: The ICC is not delivering the peace we need. It will take a long time to do its work, anyway. So meantime we should pursue peace.
Camp Leader Raymond Odoki: I consider that the war here has become a kind of business. But if the ICC arrests its indictees then the backlash would come against the people. We should make peace. Look at the example of Sudan: President Bashir sat down with Garang, and it was good. We should avoid careless statements of the kind that President Museveni sometimes makes-- but he is also given false reports about what's happening by people who don't directly feel the pain of the conflict, as we do.
Housewife Wiliberti: The arrest warrants won't work. I see no way to end the conflict through issuing arrest warrants. Therefore we should concentrate on making the peace talks work.
'Mobilizer' Dennis: The arrest warrants should be revoked so Kony and the other commanders can themselves come to the negotiating table.
Kito: The UN is the biggest world body. Why is the UN reluctant to go and fight Kony in Garamba? [Note: If this comment was correctly recorded, then it seemed to represent two views that I heard with some frequency in Gulu: first, a general misunderstanding of the ICC as being somehow a part of the UN, and of the UN as having impressive but suspiciously under-utilized policing and coercive capabilities; and second, a view that the 'international community' in general was involved in conspiracies to perpetuate northern Uganda's already lengthy civil war. See below: Ester.]
'Councillor' Catherine ( also, the Chairperson of her Sub-County, before she was relocated here): I agree with what Dennis said.
... Peasant Farmer Angelo: Why doesn't the ICC speed up its process and be done by August so we can can all back to our lands for the new planting season?
Harry Okello: If the peace talks fail, then the governments of Sudan and the DRC should let theUgandan army go and get Kony.I asked how the war had most affected them:
Camp Women's Vice-chair Ester: The UN is the biggest world body. Why is the UN not arresting Kony? ... I believe the ICC is reluctant to arrest Kony themselves because they're all in business together.
Kito: The ICC should make an agreement with Kony that he could come out of the bush. And both sides should keepo their contract.
Harry Okello: We lost nearly all our livestock and so many valuable trees. These were the sources of our livelihood. We've lost our education system.Earlier, as Mr. Odoki and I had walked slowly through the camp, he had given me many mnore details about camp life and his family's experiences during the war.
Raymond Odoki: HIV and AIDS have come into our community.
Ester: We've had such an erosion of our traditional culture.
Raymond: It used to be that our elders would sit with the children and talk with them and pass on their traditions. But now, no more. The kids don't even know their ancestral homes! There will certainly be many land disputes when we do get back to our lands. I also want to stress the issue of food. What we are given here in the camp is certainly not enough to feed our families.
This was my third relocation during the war. This relocation was in 1996. Rebels had come to this general area and killed four people there [he pointed to one portion of hillside], six people there [he pointed elsewhere], and burned huts in other places. The LRA and the army had both been very active in the region. But at that point the government came in and gave us 48 hours to move ourselves and our families into this camp they were creating here.---------
Some people stayed outside the camp until 1997. But then the army brought big, big guns to shoot at them. [He pointed to where that had happened.] So then everyone came in.
We had to leave behind everything that we had cultivated, and we have been here ever since.
The working of a criminal justice system assumes a social consensus. In an established political system, criminals are everywhere recognized as marginal people. But that wasn't present in Argentina at that time I was doing that. There wasn't a consensus. Many people there still saw the junta as protecting the interests of society. Including my mother, who was in the same church as General Videla...Later, he noted this:
Justice is not just for the victims! I had to work hard with my mother to convince her. But then, after two weeks of the trial there, my mother said I had been right: what they had done were indeed crimes. That trial delegitimized the use of violence by the army in that way and underscored a basic principle of the rule of law.
The challenge the ICC faces in its work is different from if you were sitiing in Boston or Stockholm. There, the role of a court is to 'confirm' laws, but for us, here, it is to 'establish' laws. And international relations have to be based on law-- including the 'duty to punish'.He assured me that in Uganda, in addition to investigating the acts of the LRA leaders, he also had investigations underway into allegations of criminally atrocious behavior by people in the Ugandan People's defense Force (UPDF, i.e., the army). "But it was on the basis of the much greater gravity of the offenses committed by the LRA leaders that I prosecuted them first."
In the DRC, the worst situation that occurred after 2002 was in Ituri propvince... In Uganda, nearly everyone agrees that the LRA was creating the worst situation... With respect to the UPDF, we will still have to see whether their actions reach up to the 'gravity' threshhold.He said he had considerable evidence "based on intercepts" that showed that Kony was discussing how to manipulate the peace process to gain advantage from it.
We have 160 people working here, from 40 different countries. I have sent 20 missions to Uganda. I have talked to the Paramount Chief of the Scholi and so many other people there...-----
We have a particular goal, which is to prevent future crimes. We have very good information from many, many sources-- the best in the world! We don't care about idelogy. We are just looking at the facts.
These kinds of massive crimes have no owners. It is not just an Acholi crime or a Ugandan crime; but it's an international challenge...
The ICC is a bit different from the ad-hoc courts. They were just a way to punish people according to the rules in their statutes. But our role is much bigger: It's to build something over the longterm.
Mao, a graduate of Yale Law School who was recently elected chair of the majority-Acholi Gulu District Council, expressed a nuanced view of the ICC's efforts: "As a lawyer, I know the ICC has its role.... And in general, that's an important role. All societies need to have an accountability system.... The essence of the court is to ensure accountability. But we have accountability systems in northern Uganda, too - our traditional systems."It strikes me this is a very constructive and creative approach to the dilemma that the peacemakers, the Ugandan government, and the ICC all now face.Mr. Mao explained that the Acholi system of conflict resolution, called mat oput or "drinking the bitter root," requires perpetrators to acknowledge their crimes, show remorse for them, and ask the community for forgiveness. Western-style criminal proceedings require none of these things, though a perpetrator who shows remorse can sometimes win a lighter sentence.
Now, Mao, Ogenga-Latigo, and their allies are working fast to have the main points of mat oput codified and incorporated into Ugandan law. (Other countries that have incorporated traditional systems into national law in this way include New Zealand and Rwanda.) Mao told me he hopes this will enable Uganda to tell the ICC that if the LRA leaders undergo mat oput, then they have been fully dealt with under Ugandan law, and therefore the ICC should withdraw its indictments. Uganda's peace campaigners have also recently won the right, as recognized victims of Kony's crimes, to be represented in a "pretrial" hearing here at the ICC: They plan to use that hearing to argue strongly, as victims, that the indictments be dropped.
I'm struck with the use of the construction: "anti-humane". It could have been "anti-human" or "anti-humanist". I think the last is best as a key to the whole affair. It is a struggle towards humanism, or in South African terms, ubuntu.
Do you know the Acholi book "Song of Lawino" by Okot p'Bitek, published in 1966? It is like a book-end, where Ngugi wa Thiongo's "Petals of Blood" would be the other bookend, and a whole East African renaissance situated in between. It would include the Dar campus writers such as Walter Rodney and Issa Shivji, of course - people who drive you. But it is these poets that make your skin tingle.
The matter at issue is one: Humanism, or not? At a superficial level, Song of Lawino is anti-modern and therefore anti-humanist, whereas "Petals of Blood" is explicitly progressive, though totally African. But the point is that "the question is inexorably put".
I have the advantage of having grown up within this East African renaissance. Not that it is often and advantage, but in this case it is some sort of advantage over the encyclopaedists who collest facts, and over the political tourists such as Barak Obama, who did not go to Acholi although he could possibly have coped with the language.
I recommend people study this matter in terms of whatever equivalent they have within their own experience - of which we all have enough, because this is the basic question everywhere. In South Africa it is the question of ubuntu. In the Italian Renaissance it was, say, Alberti versus Giulio Romano, the rational versus the mannerist. In the Enlightenment it was Spinoza versus those that excommunicated him. Nowadays it is the rational versus the post-modern.
Otherwise, the whole thing gets enveloped in colonial mysticism. The East African literary Ranaissance of the 1960s, of which "Song of Lawino" was ambiguously but certainly a part, was above all an escape from colonial (and not pre-colonial) obscurantism. If this is not seen and understood, in Acholi today, then there will be no escape from the present fix they are in, in my opinion.
I could go on. But tell me somebody, does this ring any bells at all for you? Is there a dialogue available here, or am I on my own?
Posted by: Dominic at August 29, 2006 12:58 AMI absolutely agree that the overwhelming disposition of the Acholi is to integrate rebels into the community and finally move on. However, a massive question remains, what will the reconciliation process look like.
I've spent the past two days searching around the web for international best practices on reconciliation that might provide a basis for a Ugandan reconciliation program.
After looking at Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Mozambique, Rwanda and others, the experience with the most interesting and applicable set up was Rwanda's Unity and Reconciliation Commission (RUC).
While the RUC was created under vastly different circumstances, it has the elements of a broad, inclusive process, that focuses on unity and reconciliation, and not truth commissions or prosecution.
Does anyone have knowledge or experience with other reconciliation programs that may have some elements that can be adapted for Uganda?
Thanks
Joshua, Kampala
Dominic, I agree with your stress on including in the discussion what we might roughly call "all the humanities"-- and thanks for the specific pointers there.
One caveat though: "anti-modern and therefore anti-humanist" ???
Joshua, hi. I would urge you first to look at the considerable wealth of reconciliationm resources within Acholi and other Ugandan cultures... You can actually find links to some good pieces of research about this if you go to the "Uganda" link in the topical index on the right sidebar here.
In terms of incorporating non-western (neo-)traditional practices in a western-style system, check out what the New Zealanders have been doing w/ Maori-style "conferencing" systems... Google for 'New Zealand restorative justice'.
The Rwandan NURC is interesting-- some good points and some v. Orwellian ones. Remember it is a government entity, related to a very paranoid (minority) government...
Posted by: Helena Cobban at September 5, 2006 08:14 PMHelena:
Thank you for the tip on New Zealand, I hadn't looked into that. I absolutely agree that Uganda's reconciliation process will be centered around indiginous tools of justice and reconciliation.
However, I have been tasked with looking at international reconciliatory processes and seeing if anything from the practical side of these processes can be adapted for Uganda.
I've looked closely at Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Mozambique and Rwanda, and really the only practical experience I've found that might be appropriate is Rwanda's National Unity and Reconciliation. To be sure, much would not be useful, but the organization of the operation seems interesting.
Dominic, I was wondering, how would you define the 'East African Renaissance'? Also, what would you say are the most important works to read of that area (especially ones that might be available in Kampala)?
Posted by: Joshua Goldstein at September 6, 2006 06:04 AMAlso, there seems to be a strong consensus that the ICC should withdraw and be replaced with traditional forms of justice and reconciliation. However, I don't hear alot about what role the
Government of Uganda (GOU) should play in the reconciliation process?
It seems like GOU has two things to consider:
(i) there is a real lack of trust amongst the people of the north, and GOU wants to re-establish their legitimacy in the region, while creating some sentiment of national unity.
(ii) at the same time, GOU acknowledges the need for local reonciliation and justice measures, which would entail GOU taking a back seat.
Any thoughts on what a practical balance would look like?
Posted by: Joshua Goldstein at September 6, 2006 06:16 AMJoshua, I would be surprised if you can't get Okot p'Bitek's "Song of Lawino" in Kampala, or Ngugi's "Petals of Blood", and prior works of Ngugi's such as "Weep Not, Child" and the "The River Between", as well as subsequent ones like "Devil On The Cross".
The Dar political writers include Walter Rodney, author of "How Europe Underdeveloped Africa".
On the question of Humanism, Modernism Africanism and Negritude you might want to cast the net wider, but Dar's Issa Shivji is a great source. He has been prolific for decades and is still going strong.
Kwame Nkrumah's essay against Leopold Senghor called "African Socialism Revisited" is concise and direct. Frantz Fanon's "Wretched of the Earth" (Les Damnees de la Terre) is a claim, like Shivji's recurrent claim, that the anti-colonialist struggle is the locus of humanism in our times, whereas Europe (or "the West") has abandoned its promises. See the short concluding chapter. Ignore Jean-Paul Sartre's introduction, it is a betrayal.
In the sixties there was no such thing as "post-modernism" and no idea of "Euro-centrism" although the corrollary of the latter which is now called "Orientalism" or noble savagery or negritude or Africanism in its various guises, was present. Kenan Malik has a very good short essay about this question as it arises today.
Joseph Kony has said the only trouble is that the biblical ten commandments are not being observed. This is not a high degree of articulation but it says to me that the LRA is a product of the same dialectic.
You have been looking for process. In my opinion you should be looking for essence.
A search for any of these names on my web site (except p'Bitek and Ngugi) will give you some results.
Posted by: Dominic at September 7, 2006 07:06 AMJust returned from the Refugee Law Project forum on The Juba Peace Talks. It was a stirring discussion, which had the usual suspects of Acholi firebrands, eloquent UPDF spokesman, and Northern European international law advocates. However, the discussion was incredibly important, because it was the first public discussion in Kampala since the Juba talks had began.
Here are the two huge questions that are going to have to be answered, and seemingly no consensus yet:
· National Reconciliation- Surely the north/south divide precedes the most recent war in the north. However, is working to end economic and service provision discrepancies enough? Or should the Government take this opportunity to work towards a sense of national unity. If so, what form does this take?
· The Role of Justice- There seems to be consensus that the ICC will withdraw indictments if the LRA agrees to the conditions set at Juba. However, does this leave impunity for the worst human rights offenders in the LRA? The traditional tool of Mato Oput does not provide a mechanism for justice, and there seems to be little support for truth commissions or trials. And here is a challenge that does not have precedent in international law: How do you get the guy at the negotiating table (Otti, Kony) to make peace if they are the ones going to be indicted later? No one seemed to have an answer for this.
My thoughts:
· Reconciliation will be a multi-tiered process, inter-Acholi, regional and perhaps national. There is little political support for national reconciliation. The process will be fragmented, which is to say decentralized, which I think is important.
· Justice is a tricky one. The Government will have to continue the talks while the rank and file comes out of the bush and more in contact with the rest of civilization. Then justice will have to be taken into account later.
Obviously, there needs to be more discussions like this with the people in the north, with support from the organizations and people based in Kampala.
What are your thoughts?
Posted by: Joshua Goldstein at September 8, 2006 02:58 AMMy dear, you have my thoughts already but you are still ploughing the field of what is called "policy".
Your whole approach is towards the right fix, the right bullet points and the right amount of "buy-in", assuming a common desire to reach what? "Stability"? Something static, at any rate.
You are simply blind to what I am trying to say. The nearest you get is to raise the question of "opportunity to work towards a sense of national unity". Why not try to conceive of a sense of national purpose? Like for example a "vast association of the whole nation in which the free development of each is the condition for the free development of all"? Do you know who wrote that?
Posted by: Dominic at September 8, 2006 04:52 AMHelena asked: "anti-modern and therefore anti-humanist" ???
It's like this. From the point of view of the liberation movement in general, there was nothing wrong with the humanism of the ancient Greeks, of the Italian Renaissance, of the Enlightenment, or of the Marxists.
The problem is not that the Europeans had these ideas. On the contrary, we are grateful for all that work. No, the problem is that the Europeans have failed to carry out these ideas and have even largely abandoned these ideas themselves.
The Europeans have moved from modernism - the product of their humanist history - to post-modernism, which is an abandonment and betrayal of humanism. Why should we follow? We do not follow. We are now the standard-bearers of humanism.
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The roller coaster that is the Juba Peace Talks between the Government of Uganda (GOU) and the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) carries on this week. Since the Peace Talks began in August, northern Uganda has become a battleground for discussion on different approaches to transitional justice and reconciliation. Last week, Refugee Law Project (RLP) published To Look Forward, We Must Look Back, the first position paper on the issue. The paper is an excellent starting point for the debate. RLP writes:
We believe that local reconciliation methods such as Mato Oput are important at a local level and should be validated, supported and strengthened. We also believe that the truth-telling elements embedded in Mato Oput and many other Ugandan cultural reconciliation mechanisms should be emulated and adapted into a wider process.
However, we recognize and stress that the current emphasis on local mechanisms cannot address the needs of the country as a whole, whether it be the north-south divide, or tensions between east and west. Equally, we recognize that international justice mechanisms- such as the ICC- are structurally incapable of handling anything more than the most visible perpetrators of abuses; while they address a particular dimension of impunity, they are not suited for dealing with the wider psychosocial and political consequences of decades of conflict.
Important points. Nearly everyone agrees that traditional justice practices and the ICC must be part of a larger transitional justice picture. Here is where divergent opinion begins:
In support of the efforts of other actors working on these issues, we therefore urge Government, Civil Society Actors, Religious Bodies and political parties, to fully investigate the multiple options for establishing a national truth and reconciliation process.
RLP is on target. Anyone with a sense of history recognizes that President Museveni has the opportunity to make one of the boldest and bravest moves in Uganda's short history. A national truth and reconciliation process that addresses the vast gulfs of mistrust and conflict that have separated the many nations that exist within the Ugandan state would do much to end the deeply ingrained culture of nepotism.
There are two very hard questions that RLP does not address.
(i) Is there political will to make national truth and reconciliation a reality?
The answer lies only with Museveni. There is reason to be hopeful. He is increasingly interested in his legacy, especially relating to East African unity. He must know that this cannot happen unless his own house is in order. There are also economic reasons. Stability of Southern Sudan, with Juba as its capital, makes for enormous economic opportunity. Anything material going to Juba will surely come from the Mombasa Port via Kampala and Gulu. Uganda loses much needed income if the north is unstable. Even political adversaries like Gulu LC V Chairman Norbert Mao have acknowledged that Museveni has become significantly more open-minded about resolving the northern question. However, it will take a heroic effort for him to transcend the political culture of neo-patrimonialism that has pervaded Uganda.
(ii) What would a national truth and reconciliation process look like?
The details of this plan are beyond the scope of this post, but the process should be served by the careful balancing of two disparate principles. First, all parties should recognize that the process of 'acknowledgement' is central to the Ugandan sense of justice. While punitive justice would be a Sisyphisean task considered the twenty-two armed conflicts in the last twenty years, public acknowledgement of wrongs would go a long way towards reconciliation.
Second is Rosiland Shaw's concept of 'social forgetting.' Shaw is a Tufts University anthropologist whose work in Sierra Leone showed that truth commissions, which are the international norm in transitional justice, are not always therapeutic. Shaw showed that religious or traditional based approaches to dealing with the past can often be more appropriate and effective.
Uganda must strike a careful balance between a national process that fosters unity and a series of local processes that encourage healing.
Posted by: Joshua Goldstein at October 16, 2006 01:29 AMI love the way you have expressed facts of concern. However, what is the way forward? This question has kept hounting me to the extent that I havetaken a study in the field of peace prospects for Northern Uganda.
Could you help me answer these questions so that they can become the foundation of my involvement in this issues?
They are questions set for academic purpose but vital for understanding and getting involved in the fight for Peace. I will be very grateful for your response
QUESTIONS:
TO THE INDIVIDUALS/BODIES THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE INTERVATION PROCESSES OF PEACE IN NORTHERN UGANDA.
1. As a person/a body that has been involved in the peace attempts in Northern Uganda, Do you think that ICC has the capacity to bring peace to Northern Uganda? Tick if Yes/No and give reasons for your Response.
2. What has failed your success in peace building?
4. What other Challenges do you think ICC is likely to face in its peace attempts in Northern Uganda?
6. Why do you think various attempts have failed to bring peace to Northern Uganda?
7. a) Suggest the parties that are highly responsible for the failure of the peace processes in Northern Uganda.
8. Do you think there is any collaboration between the government of Uganda and ICC Concerning the Northern Ugandan conflict resolution? If yes/No what makes you think so?
9. What do you think is likely to be the out come of this collaboration in relation to peace processes in Northern Uganda?
12.Do you think such problems are likely to fail ICC's attempts to peace processes in Northern Uganda?
13. What advice would you give to ICC in its attempts?
14. Which other attempts do you think can bring peace to Northern Uganda besides ICC and Why?
15. Should ICC continue the investigations in Northern Uganda any way? If Yes/ No Why?
16. What would you suggest as the best alternative for peace in Northern Uganda?
17. What do you think can be the best solution to the atrocities/ Human Rights abuses that have been committed in Northern Uganda during the conflict?
18. Present general recommendations, suggestions and the likely possible solutions to the Northern Ugandan Conflict.
a) Suggestions
b) Likely Possible solutios
c) Recommendations
I don't have the answers to all the questions posted by Alupo Jesca, but Pamela Yates and I spent the month of December 2006 in northern Uganda with our crew filming the situation there for a documentary film we are producing about the effects of the ICC in the world. One thing that struck us is that while the public discussion of peace vs justice is dominated by opposition to the ICC intervention, the opinion we found in the IDP camps when we spoke directly to the victims was quite different. Most of the people we interviewed want to see Kony and Otti locked up, and their only regret about the ICC is that it doesn't have the means to arrest them. As for the Mato Oput solution, the leader of one of the camps we visited said, "How would Mato Oput work under these circumstances? Who would Kony face in the ceremony? Museveni, who is not even Acholi?" A reminder of the fact that Mato Oput is an Acholi ceremony and doesn't apply for non-Acholis all over the north that have been victimized by the LRA.
As so often happens in situations of massive human rights violations, the voices of the victims are the last to be heard. Our most recent film about the TRC in Peru, "State of Fear", is a case in point. Until that TRC was formed, the stories of 18,000 Peruvian victims that gave testimony (both public and private) had never been heard. One awful result was the realization that the death toll had been closer to 70,000 rather than the 35,000 that had previously been the accepted toll of the violence.
It makes sense to me that human beings want some kind of real accountability when terrible atrocities are inflicted on them. The Andean and Ashaninka peoples of Peru also have traditional justice and reconciliation methods to resolve conflicts at the local level - but these are simply inadequate for crimes as massive as those committed by Shining Path and the Peruvian state during Peru's 20-year conflict. I grew up in Latin America, and we tried the amnesty route after the terrible dictatorships that dominated the landscape for so many years - it didn't ultimately work there, and I find it hard to believe that it will work in Uganda. As one of the former LRA abdcutees told us, "How could I possibly live with Kony and Otti in our midst? How do I get back the time they stole from my life when I was abducted?" The idea that the Acholi have a special capacity for forgiveness sounds patronizing.
Posted by: Paco at February 7, 2007 10:01 AMI have a problem with whoever claims to have been in northern uganda, selected a few individuals mostly in like one IDP camp, prompted such persons with a question about the peace process, amnesty, traditional justice and mato oput vs the ICC, and concluding that it won't work whatever the case. First the people in northern uganda have interacted for over two decades with the whites providing humanitarian activities- they know what the western perspective is on the peace process, they know what such researchers want to find in terms of the peace vs justice debate and are more than willing to answer such question from a wessterners perspective (i swear they do and i know for sure they will give a local researcher a different opinion on the same issue). Incidentally, most western researchers depends on local guide and local leaders who knows very well who can give a particular answer to whatever question a researcher is looking for, and you people always interview this same persons because by merely introducing yourself and your area of interest, the guide knows who will give you what you want to hear. Most times these researchers also come with preconcieved ideas and uses the trip to merely validate their hypothesis and no matter the findings, their conclusion is distorted and the same. A case in point is this repeated allegation that mato oput is an acholi thing and Museveni can not mato oput with Kony because he is a muyankole, thats simply not true.Museveni will seek gomo tong (bending the spears) because they have been in fighting but if Museveni had killed an acholi, then there is nothing to prevent museveni family or clan from mato-oput with the family of the deceased. This traditional justice and reconciliation approaches are similar across all cultures in uganda, albeit with different degree of prominence and naming but in principle they are recognised and embraced by all africans and europeans alike. The only differnce is that the europeans have decided to brand africans ''traditional'' while theres ''alternative'' dispute resolution mechanisms. On the question of amnesty, i should spare that for another time but to allege that former abductees cannot stand to reconcilie with kony and Otti (RIP) is comical. Brig Banya, Kolo and others are all here, there interact freely with the civilians and former rebels alike. These people were commanders, they abducted, did all the atrocities ICC claims to pursue...of course these same crimes are being committed everyday all over the world but the ICC cannot do a thing, so ''whats so interesting about northern Uganda?''this should be your question for your next research.
Oola Stephen
Refugee Law Project, Uganda
Beyond Juba Project, Gulu
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